Pinboards disappearing
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kathyb last edited by leocg
@kmielczarczyk This is in Poor judgement of Opera to create a tool such as Pinboards and Not warn users that clearing site data would delete the boards. That's a Huge flaw on their part. Most people on a routine basis clear and clean their browsing, for some that also includes registry, and so on. Opera should advise or warn or protect. I have to SMH at this blunder that Opera has created. It was a great idea while it lasted.
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kathyb last edited by leocg
@kmielczarczyk Technically speaking, Opera should warn users of the possibility of the Pinboards being cleared along with site data. Technically, while under development, we thank you for using us a guinea pig for your experiment. That's a very poor excuse for you to bring to the table, technically speaking, pinboards is still under development. In your beautiful ad, as seen here, https://www.opera.com/features/pinboards Nowhere does it tell the victim or warn that is in "developmental stage" . There is not one word of warning... just a pretty little ad to such someone in to find out they lost all their content and material. That's very... deceptive!
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kmielczarczyk Opera last edited by@kathyb We're sorry this happened to you and I see how disappointing it can be. We should do better.
We're looking into this issue and are determined to fix this.
Until we do, we encourage you to use Synchronisation or turn on sharing of individual Pinboards to make sure they're not lost. -
kathyb last edited by
@kmielczarczyk I got an update on my browser today. I was so disappointed in the fact that my pinboards had vanished and all the material I lost. Now, in the update, it again says nothing about pinboards being experimental, or under development. So I don't assume it's still experimental, is it a stable version now? Because here it gives no indication that it is not. https://www.opera.com/features/pinboards?hide_btn
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kathyb last edited by
@leocg https://www.opera.com/features/pinboards?hide_btn. By all means, go to that link and tell me where it says development, developmental, in progress, under construction, warning that you should back up your boards, experimental, or anything of that nature. Since it clearly states that, please tell me where. I seriously have looked and cannot find it.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@kathyb That's not the pinboard page, it's just a page to advertise a feature. The official page is pinboards.opera.com or opera://pinboards and what is in that page is what matters.
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kathyb last edited by
@leocg Again, in the new version of Opera, the website I gave you does not give that information. So it clearly does not state that there. That page was what I was greeted with, and what Opera greets you with as a "sales pitch". Does it say anywhere on that page to go to another page that shows the pinboards are "experimental"? Use at your own risk? No.. No, it clearly does not. It was you, the moderator, that has told me that I have to go elsewhere to find that information. When I updated my browser today, I was greeted with that link I sent you. Thinking they got the issues with the PB straightened out, I looked all over prior to even posting or asking the question. You should not tell someone clearly it states something on a link, something that Opera is trying to suck you in with, when what you are saying is there, is not.
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kathyb last edited by
@leocg I will not be argumentative, but your reply was relatively weak. In the beginning you said, "it clearly states". To end with it's advertising main/new features. Again, if a browser is going to put something out there they can't back up, why should we believe it? It's wrong to suck people in with promises, and then hide it's in developmental stages. As a consumer, even that of browsers, it's called disclosure. I, along with others, lost a great deal of things on my pinboards, only to be told by Opera, it was in the "developmental stages". I love the idea of the Pinboards; I just want to be assured they will work and for my browser to be transparent to everyone that something they are claiming isn't fully stable at this time. Good Day!
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@kathyb We are talking about different pages. Pinboards page (https://pinboard.opera.com) clearly shows a Beta together with the name Pinboards, what means that the feature is not fully stable yet.
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kathyb last edited by leocg
@leocg I truly wish you would make up your mind. I gave a web addy my original post. You clapped back that it clearly states, then you changed your mind when I again asked you to show me where it stated that. You then gave a different answer, then another. Now here you are with yet again another answer. Either way, you are referring to Pinboards advertised by Opera. I saw the one you just referred to right after my boards disappeared. Then Opera released an update. That update again shows the Pinboards as their Tada. It was that release that I referred to. So now you are saying they're different things. Again, if they are the same, which I believe they are, the update did Not show that Pinboards were under development. You can't have it both ways. They either are or they are not. Yes, what you referred to does state not stable, but there has been an update since that page was created.
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leocg Moderator Volunteer last edited by
@kathyb I didn't change my mind, I kept the same answer since the beginning of this conversation. What I am/was trying to do is to make you understand that in a page that is clearly to advertise the benefits of a feature (or a product, any one), you will probably never see a warning about possible issues.
Anyway, I don't think that ba warning about the feature being experimental, what is kinda obvious for new ones, would be useful. Most people don't read them.
Also, if there were to be a warning, it should be in the data cleaner to alert that undesired data may be lost band advising to make a backup before. -
pinpointedu last edited by
An entire pinboard disappeared for me too! I'm so bummed because i had references for a big project I'm working on and it just Vanished
unbelievable a catastrophic feature would be put out to the public like that. booooooooooo
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kathyb last edited by
@pinpointedu It's a disappointing thing to say it politely that the pinboards are a "selling" feature promoted by Opera, only not to work. I have begun using a browser extension called Notion and Pocket. There's also Notebook. Those are pretty solid backups to Pinboards. I think Opera should be responsible enough to FIX the Pinboards. I lost all my students boards.
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